TEPCO Plans Dangerous Liquid Nitrogen Injections at Fukushima Reactor 2

Fukushima Diiachi reactor 2NHK is reporting that Tokyo Electric Power Company is planning to begin nitrogen injections into Fukushima’s Number 2 reactor containment vessel.

Earlier this week, TEPCO tried to fill the reactor 2 containment with water. That did not work. So they OPENED the containment and released BILLIONS of lethal doses of radiation. Now they are wondering whether there is any water left in the bottom of the containment.

Let’s help them. Since the bottom of the reactor is hot enough to melt concrete, and IS melting concrete, and no steam is coming out of the reactor, here’s why:

The core of Reactor 2 is still in at least intermittent fission and has melted through the bottom of the containment. Thus there is a hole in the bottom of the reactor where the core is melting through – it’s several thousand degrees down there. Water pours through holes and what doesn’t boils at 212 degrees. So there is no water in the bottom of the reactor.

Then they tried to toss in some instruments but, of course, they melted – like their little helicopter and their robot – which was built to go into reactors, except no one bothered to see if it would work BEFORE IT WAS TOO LATE – which it didn’t.

Now they are going to pump liquid nitrogen into the core of reactor 2. Liquid nitrogen freezes at -346 degrees F and boils at -321 degrees F. A 25 degree F difference. First, they will probably never actually get any liquid nitrogen near the core – it will boil away immediately upon being pumped into the containment (they tried it at Chernobyl – it didn’t work there, either). If, by some physical quirk they manage to pump some on a nuclear core at 3,000 degrees F, they will be mightily surprised at what happens. The expansion ration of liquid nitrogen is about 1:7. They will probably manage to asphyxiate everyone within a block if it doesn’t blow up in their face. But maybe they will get lucky. Maybe they will only release a few billion more lethal doses of radiation.

Will it cool the core? Not exactly, but it will certainly rupture anything that goes from 3,000 degrees to – 300 in a microsecond – basically anything it touches at the bottom of that reactor. Within about five seconds after they finish screwing THAT up – they will run out of liquid nitrogen.

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Dr. Tom is a retired scientist who is now farming on the Big Island of Hawaii.

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  • Paul

    The humungous thread of 965+ pages ( http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672665/pg966 ) at Above Top Secret forum has tracked and investigated this disaster from the start and continues to pull together information and facts from all across the web. It is a great source of info on the situation at Fukushima.

    I think Tom is on the right track and his assessments tie in with the nuclear experts on the ATS thread.

    What continues to amaze me is that the Japanese are running this whole party by themselves and do not seem to be able to encourage the rest of the world to join in.

    Maybe the Japanese have something to hide there at Fukushima and dont want others poking their nose into Japan’s nuclear business? Just a wild uncoroborrated speculation. 🙂

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  • Rick

    Supposedly that have managed to design and are now constructing a filtering process to eliminate radiation from the water. And it was reported that they have, so far, released “minor” radiated water into the ocean. They are capturing the “major” radiated water and will filter it for us. Wow…we have nothing to worry about.

    Somehow, however, I just simply don’t believe anything Tepco is “propagandizing” to the world.

    I say plant 1 extremely large thermonuclear device…large enough to “finish” the reactions….

    but evacuate the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere….first.

    put the Nuclear industry, and anyone attached, affiliated, or connected in any way….near the bomb to monitor for us the effects…

    at least it would eliminate, at worst…the human element for future generations….

    Mankind is on a path to destruction….a freight train full speed ahead.

    No chance of a happy outcome. PERIOD

    Only the Creator himself can fix this. imho

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    • Tom Burnett

      If ‘The Creator” allowed it, why would He (or She) fix it? WE created it and WE are going to fix ourselves right into extinction.

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      • This would be cool to watch if we weren’t sitting so close to the television.

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      • Rick

        your timetable is a bit different from his. He is allowing mankind to rule himself…since there was an issue raised about the right of man to call the shots….so long ago. man’s rule is soon over….and God’s incoming kingdom will for all time, establish itself on earth…

        as the days of Noah were…so they are now….

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        • Tom Burnett

          Thanks in advance for not prosthelytizing in my column, but I will humor you this one last time.

          I’m glad you got an update from Him. The last I heard, in Revelation, He was coming back to kill everyone and make the rivers run red with blood. Has that changed?

          If you have another blog in which you would like me to disabuse of your nonsense, let me know.

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          • Rick

            “He was coming back to kill everyone”

            For anyone who read your reply…it may be comforting to them to know that God does not just kill people. Never has, never will. In this world…the wicked thrive…and kill the innocent. They abuse, extort, manipulate, and use people as they need to. In the coming world…it will be marked by love.

            But first…the arrogant, ungodly, unloving, haughty, unreformable selfish people who live for themselves or for stuff….will be removed. And only the Creator makes that call. He doesn’t destroy good. He destroys bad. and why is it so wrong to get rid of wickedness once and for all? Guess what…it isn’t. For the sake of the righteous…the wicked will be removed….not to be tormented…but to just go to sleep forever….

            and they won’t be missed.

            So, see…the Creator is NOT some mindless bloodthirsty God who wants people dead. Scriptures indicate he doesn’t want any to be destroyed….

            each person is free to plot their own life course…dependent or independent of the Creator.

            enough of this on this blog.

            I can be reached via e-mail…..

            thanks, Tom, for your insightful knowledge on the disasters. Really do find your candidness and honesty refreshing….

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          • Tom Burnett

            THE FLOOD?!?!?!? THE PLAGUES??!? ALL OF THE EGYPTIAN FIRSTBORN?!?!? HELLO, you must be talking about the God you dreamed up – not the one in the Bible. If you want to tell me what ‘Scriptures’ say. QUOTE THEM!

            Do you know how many verses are in the KJV1611 (Authorized) Bible ( with Apocrypha)? No, you don’t. But I do. There are 31.101 verses and, EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 200 OF THEM, THEY ALL DEAL WITH EXTREME VIOLENCE!

            Except the genealogies which are (1) wrong, and (2) too boring to read.

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          • Paul B

            @Rick doesn’t read his bible

            Numbers 31.
            God tells his followers to kill an entire city and keep 32,000 virgins for slave.
            How did they check for virginity? Examining the vaginas of 32,000 female children.
            GOd got mad they kept the non virgins alive, so they went back and killed tens of thousands of women.

            Then they sacrificed 32 of the best virgins ” For the Lord”. Better check the older translations before they were changed.

            Numbers 31.

            Now I take leave and continue with my random web surfing. Thank you WebMaster for the scientific and critical opinion on the Fukushima Crisis.

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          • Tom Burnett

            Actually Paul, one can only assume that God ordered David’s army to keep the er….booty. It’s not explicitly written. Moses gave the order. We aren’t going to turn a perfectly good thread into a theology lesson, but that’s what the story says. 🙂

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  • Matty Od

    Ummm where on NHK are they reporting that? NHK have only reported what Adam Smith said, that “about is injecting nitrogen gas to help avert the danger of another hydrogen explosion”

    Id love to know the source of this information. I live here in Fukushima, so any ‘real’ news is of importance to me…

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    • Tom Burnett

      You are getting your news on NHK? That strategy is ineffective. There is a large liquid nitrogen tank at R2. Maybe they are going to remove warts.

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  • Old School

    See the problem. Idiots who don’t know basic chemistry and physics weighing in with BS. What some (like Gunderson) said from the earliest hours has turned out to be true. AT LEAST one or two reactors continue in meltdown. Another one-three are probably critical, but are being kept cool enough to avoid (4 time being) meltdown. This cooling effort is ruining more than the Fukushima Prefecture. Each time venting occurs, billions of particles of radioactive material are released. These particles are being captured in auto air intake filters around the world. What is probably worse is the accumulation of radioactive waste in the groundwater, oceans, and soil of Japan first, but ultimately across the world. Meanwhile, we (the world) sits idly by and lets Japan and Tepco sh** where we eat. When is enough?

    Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
    Hudson: Effin’ A!
    Burke: Hold on a second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
    Ripley: They can *bill* me.

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  • Curtis

    What other options do they have? If this one is as doomed to failure as you’ve described, there must not be any other options available.

    Is there a way to blow up and scatter the corium into smaller bits so that it would be easier to cool it down? I’m sure that causing an explosion into a mass of molten enriched fuel wouldn’t pose any risk…(sarcasm)

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  • TomTom

    They have never had control over the situation, only managing to contain this and slow down that. Now they don’t want to spend 100 billion yen on containing the molten cores because it will make their stock price drop? Really? Tepco bought the plant, owns the plant, and doesn’t truly accept full responsibility for their baby even though it is destroying the environment both land and sea. What a stellar company.

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  • Adam Smith

    Excuse me, nitrogen is being pumped in to prevent an explosion as nitrogen gas will prevent the hydrogen gas from exploding. They’ve done this in the other reactors to prevent a repeat hydrogen explosion and they didn’t blow up. There’s a reason that those plants are actually equipped with equipment to do this.

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    • Tom Burnett

      Excuse me, nuclear plants are NOT equipped to pump liquid nitrogen and do not have it onsite. Tepco has been pumping nitrogen into reactor 1 since April to displace hysrogen, but that is very different that using LIQUID nitrogen in an effort to cool the core. We are discussing completely different modalities here.

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      • Joebob

        Your source for the news about pumping liquid nitrogen to cool? All I see on NHK (not NKH)or elsewhere is a report on using nitrogen to prevent a hydrogen explosion. Your link “NKH is reporting” says nothing about using liquid nitrogen to cool. Your comment about a liquid nitrogen tank at R2 is interesting, but it too has no link. Are you basing your article on a guess that something is happening, or do you have some facts? Please provide a link as I would like to read about it. Thanks.

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        • Tom Burnett

          You aren’t going to read about it. Unless you were reading my OPED in MARCH, you didn’t even know the reactors melted down until JUNE when TEPCO finally admitted it. But you are presumable a smart guy. What’s cheaper? 5,000 gallons of liquid nitrogen or 50,000 gallons of CO2 (especially in the form of dry ice – which will also displace hydrogen quite nicely?) Want a hint? CO2 is cheaper and will do the same thing in gas form. Of course, connecting the dots is important – which is what I do – but no one uses gold when they can use tin. Capice?

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          • Joebob

            Your opinion, even if it is well-informed, should not be presented as fact. Somewhere there ought to be an “I believe,” or “I think.” I thought I was reading news, not commentary. It looks like Matty Od, above, made the same mistake.

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          • Tom Burnett

            This column is an OP-ED. Unfortunately, it turns out to be prescient most of the time.

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